I caught Melissa Holloway at a strange moment. We talked
in her headquarters on the
day her appeal was heard by the New Jersey State Supreme
Court. It was two o' clock and the office on MLK and Atlantic
was empty -- the shades were drawn and the would-be candidate
for mayor of Jersey City sat behind her desk caught somewhere
between anticipation and resignation. When she spoke, she did
so with noticeable weariness. Unsure whether she was on the
ballot or barred from it, she nevertheless worked up her composure
and addressed me in the manner of an influential ward leader,
rather than as a spurned and somber civic suitor.
Four hours after this interview was conducted, Holloway
was jubilant and thoroughly recharged. The Supreme Court had
ruled unanimously: Judge Gallipoli's verdict to uphold City
Clerk Robert Byrne's decision
to keep her off the ballot was overturned. Earlier in the
day, Holloway had been reluctant to discuss her court case.
The particulars of her complaint against Byrne's office and
the City courts and attorneys are the topic of a different interview;
perhaps one that can wait until after the election is over (for
those who dig legalese, Ryan Kennedy has thoughtfully
posted the text of the decision here). She did corroborate
most of Andrew Hubsch's objections
to the process, and shared his frustration with
the outdated county voter rolls.
Newcomers to Jersey City may be surprised to know that Holloway
has a political history that is almost as lengthy as Mayor Healy's.
From 1993 until 2001, Holloway served as the Ward F councilwoman.
A cousin of Glenn Cunningham, Holloway worked on his first run
for Jersey City mayor, and was then selected to represent her
ward on Bret Schundler's ticket. At the time of her election,
she was only 31 years old.
While she jokes that the certification she's most proud
of is her
cooking degree from HCCC, it's clear that Melissa Holloway
considers herself highly educated and impeccably qualified for
executive office. She has a B.S. from Rutgers-Newark in Business
Management, a master's degree in political science from George
Washington University, and she has been involved in Jersey City
public life since the Eighties. Tall, commanding, straightlaced,
and at times professorial, Melissa Holloway speaks in forceful
and direct sentences, without much levity, but with an unswerving
authority that suggests vast reservoirs of self-confidence.
TM: Did the vehemence
with which the Mayor’s Office contested your candidacy surprise
you?
MH: No, it did not.
TM: It surprised me.
MH: It shouldn’t have. The Hudson County Democratic Organization
is afraid of anybody who is independent, and anybody who has
ideas that are contrary to theirs. Rather than debating or discussing
issues, their first impulse is to shut
the opposition down. The HCDO does not like to share power.
They will do whatever they can to make sure power stays in their
hands and their hands alone.
When a political figure emerges in this town who they can’t
control, it frightens them. They couldn’t control Glenn Cunningham,
so they did what they could to discredit him. Once they determined
they couldn’t control him, the adjectives started flowing. Just
like now that I’m standing in opposition to their policies,
the adjectives have started flowing about me.
TM: What are those adjectives?
MH: “Oh, she’s too uncompromising. She’s too independent, too
strong-willed”. All the good qualities that you need to be a
leader – those are the qualities that the HCDO are afraid of.
They don’t want to cultivate leaders. They want people to
be lead.
TM: Why do you think so few challengers have emerged this
year? Do you think Jersey City is suffering from election fatigue?
Or do you think the petition restrictions are too prohibitive?
MH: You shouldn’t compare May 2005 to November 2004. It’s easy
for a lot of people to come out in a special election. When
you’re talking about doing a full run, you have to be able to
find the resources to make a creditable attempt. That is going
to disqualify all but the most serious candidates.
The more complicated answer is that backroom deals have been
made to clear the field for Healy’s re-election.
TM: What prospective candidates have been dealt out of the
running?
MH: For one, Lou Manzo, of course. The party establishment
made
it clear to him that if he wanted their support for his
Assembly seat, he would have to decline to stand for Mayor.
TM: You supported Assemblyman
Manzo in the November election, right?
MH: I did.
TM: Let’s get a little background about you for people who
might be newcomers to local politics. You’re a Jersey City native?
MH: Yes, I was born and raised here. I graduated from Academic
High School.
TM: When did you first become involved in local politics?
MH: In 1987, I worked as a special assistant to my cousin,
Glenn Cunningham, during his first run for mayor. From there,
I moved on to the 1988 Jesse Jackson presidential campaign.
I ran for office for the first time in 1993. I was the Ward
F city council candidate on Bret Schundler’s reform ticket.
While Bret Schundler and I disagree vehemently on many ideological
issues, I respect his sincerity. He always treated me like a
peer – at the time of his first run, he was 33 and I was 31.
It was a great honor to be chosen by Schundler, because he
made a conscious decision to choose someone young and highly
educated. I won
that election by six votes, thereby proving that every vote
really does count. I became the youngest Ward F city councilperson
in history.
In 1997, I ran again as an independent, and won, becoming he
first woman to win back to back terms on the City Council in
over twenty years.
TM: Were you tempted to run for mayor in 2001?
MH: I was. But, realistically, it would have damaged Glenn
Cunningham’s chances of getting elected. I allowed myself to
be convinced that 2001 was not the time.
TM: Over the course of these interviews I’ve done, I have
heard so many conflicting versions of the story of Cunningham’s
break from the HCDO. You had a front-row seat to the bout. What
happened there?
MH: They believed that they’d be able to control Glenn Cunningham,
but they couldn’t. And if they can’t control you, they attempt
to destroy you. Basically, the HCDO wanted friends to get certain
contracts, and Glenn said no. The war erupted from there, and
there hasn’t officially been a ceasefire.
TM: Several of the county-backed politicians -- County
Executive DeGise in particular -- have made the argument
that it’s time to heal the divisions, and by electing the full
Healy slate, we’ve got a better chance of stopping the fighting.
MH: Do you believe that?
First of all, I don’t think anybody should be enthusiastic
about the prospect of all these good old boys cooperating with
each other. But that’s just an illusion anyway. They’re doing
just as much fighting internally now than they ever did when
Glenn was Mayor. Read the papers: just today, you can see that
members of the Organization are in court, fighting each other
over who gets committee seats. So the war hasn’t ceased – it’s
just gone to a whole other level.
TM: Do you see your candidacy as an extension of Glenn Cunningham’s
work to focus attention on underserved parts of the city? Do
you see yourself as taking up the banner in his fight against
the county organization?
MH: Well, not in so many words – I’m very much my own person.
And I believe that my successful negotiations with Bret Schundler
proves that I have the ability to persuade those to whom I might
be ideologically opposed. I am not running to pick a fight.
But so many people from this neighborhood and elsewhere have
come to me over the last few months and said “Melissa, you need
to find the money to make this run.”
The African-American community in Jersey City has lost five
major political positions in the last few years – the mayor’s
office, City Council president, state legislators. After Mayor
Cunningham’s death, I believe that many in the African-American
community felt that we’d lost everything.
So yes, I felt I owed it to my community to do what I could
to continue Glenn’s work. Certainly I believed that my platform
would be better than whatever Mayor Healy could put forth.
TM: There has been some concern that Mayor Healy has not
been inclusive enough. Do you share the belief that this administration
is not as racially and ethnically diverse as it should be in
a city as polyglot as ours?
MH: The short answer is yes. But I think we have to broaden
our definition of “inclusion”. It would be better for the city
if we had more African-American and minority voices in City
Hall. But it would be better yet for the city to have any
strong voices in City Hall.
Because right now, there is no meaningful inclusion in the
political process. When it comes to the big questions that will
shape the city – the planning, the building, the infrastructure
– we’ve got fifteen to twenty power brokers in this town who
are making all the decisions with zero community input. Unless
we have a mayor who will stand up to them, they will do what
they’re going to do, and they will disregard the wishes of the
people on the street. Most of these power brokers and developers
don’t even live here. When will we, the residents of this town,
finally be allowed to make our own decisions about what Jersey
City should look like?
There is so much disenfranchisement here. There are so many
people who have not been able to share in the fruits of the
growth of Jersey City, and who cannot get their voices heard
by the power structure no matter how loud they shout. There
is a sea of residents who are virtually invisible – they’re
disregarded by the government and ignored by city services.
I am running to make those “invisible” people visible once again,
and to put the concerns of the disenfranchised and ignored back
on the municipal agenda.
TM: You feel like the demands and concerns of the new residents
on the waterfront are drowning out the voices of those who don’t
live there?
MH: I am more alarmed that the current Mayor seems
to have forgotten where the waterfront is. During his run,
he promised to stand against further Downtown tax abatements.
Now that he has been elected, we’re seeing new abatements on
Washington Boulevard and in Newport. Has the Hudson River moved?
Tax abatements are supposed to be used as a tool to jump-start
an area. The Downtown no longer needs a jump-start. It is time
for us to take those tools and bring them to another part of
the city that requires revitalization. The fact that we’re subsidizing
people who can afford to pay five hundred thousand to a million
dollars on a condominium when there are people in this town
who are struggling to afford groceries is just crazy. It’s unfathomable.
Meanwhile, it puts an unfair tax burden on modest one, two,
and three-family homeowners who have been in the city for years.
TM: Are you worried about tax revaluation?
MH: Everybody should be worried about tax revaluation. It’s
going to hit everybody across the city. We in Ward F are not
immune – houses here are now going for four hundred to five
hundred thousand dollars. My own personal property taxes will
probably triple under the next reval. That’s scary.
And what sort of services will I be getting for this new tax
that’s coming my way? I doubt I will get much of anything. The
huge payments that the City currently receives do not seem to
be translating into better services, do they?
TM: In my conversation with Junior
Maldonado, he suggested that by the time property in Jersey
City is revaluated, many of the
original abatements will have expired, and those properties
will be taxed normally.
MH: That’s if the city government doesn’t renew those tax abatements
that are currently on the books. Considering the track record
of this government – one that has seldom met an abatement it
doesn’t like – I don’t think it’s a good bet. We need to be
sure that the city leaders don’t simply start re-upping these
tax abatements in exchange for political contributions.
We also need to start to do forensic accounting reports on
the tax abatements we have on the books. There were requirements
in most of the abatement agreements that developers hire local
contractors. But when you sample the license plates at any construction
site, you will see trucks from Pennsylvania, New York, Virginia
– everywhere but New Jersey! It is an open secret that those
construction jobs do not go to Jersey City workers. We need
to begin enforcing those laws.
TM: Steven Fulop was also insistent
that we revisit the language in
these agreements to require developers to take better care
of the streets.
MH: I absolutely agree. We need to do a better job of preventing
developers from making a mess of the streets and neighborhoods
where they’re working. Again, this is a problem that is general
across Jersey City. We give contracts out, but fail to hire
inspectors to watch the work. This comes from being woefully
understaffed in the planning department, the building and zoning
departments, and in city engineering.
Because we do not have enough planning staff, we essentially
allow developers to write the plan for the city. This
is backward. You cannot expect developers to understand the
big picture. We are seeing growth booming all over this city,
but if we don’t have a planning staff to guide and oversee that
development, we are going to end up with a city infrastructure
that lacks integrity and coherence.
TM: Many Downtowners – even indie rockers, who are normally
explorers – do not get up to Ward F that frequently. Has the
Martin Luther King neighborhood seen an infusion of development
and civic projects? How has the area changed in the last few
years?
MH: There’s the new library and the new community center. But
I think the biggest change is those four hundred thousand and
five hundred thousand dollar houses. In the northern part of
Ward
F, property values are soaring. Even brownstones that haven’t
been renovated are selling for prices that would have been unfathomable
to people a few years ago.
The question is: how long is this real estate boom going to
last? Are we witnessing the genuine transformation of parts
of this Ward, or is this a price bubble? If it’s a bubble, will
it burst, and leave us all struggling, disappointed, and confused?
TM: I imagine families are beginning to be priced out of
Ward F, just as they have been getting priced out of Ward E
for years now. Do you believe that there is anything the municipal
government can do to slow down the rate of property value inflation?
MH: No, I don’t.
TM: It’s interesting that you’re so blunt. I ask that question
to every politician I sit down with, and usually they hem and
haw and try to figure out a way to sugarcoat their answer.
MH: I can’t do that in good conscience. This is the
way the market is structured, and there’s nothing we can
do about it. The real-estate market is commanding all of these
new prices. Until the bubble bursts, or people decide to invest
their money elsewhere, property values will continue to rise.
One thing I would like to do is expand the program that designates
historic districts. Madison Avenue and Bergen
Hill (both in Ward F) are beautiful areas, and I would like
to ensure that they are further protected and preserved.
TM: Do you take any credit for the resurgence of your part
of town?
MH: I can’t take credit for the real-estate boom – economic
conditions are responsible for that. But I am very proud of
the work I’ve been able to do on behalf of my neighborhood.
We brought $150
million in civic improvements into the Ward F community –
$40 million of which was placed into our shopping center on
Martin Luther King. We obtained several hundred new units of
affordable housing, new parks, new playgrounds for our kids.
It took a lot of struggles with the sitting mayor to get all
of that done. But that’s what I am good at – fighting for improvements,
standing up for my community, and getting results.
TM: The recent curfews have
hit Ward F harder than any other part of Jersey City. Have business
owners complained to you about the effect of the lockdown on
their bottom lines?
MH: No, no businessman has come up directly to me and said
that the curfew is hurting them, but I can see that consumers
are irritated. Consider: we are now forcing people to leave
town at night to get goods and services that they used to find
right on their street corners. We now have to tell a mother
who has run out of Pampers or milk at eleven o’ clock at night
that she must go to another city to get what she needs.
But my bigger problem with the curfew is its
philosophical implications. Imposing a curfew means that
we, as a city, are surrendering to crime. Instead of taking
the fight to the criminals, we are shutting down our city blocks
and giving up. It’s up to the police to be out here on the streets,
making our neighborhoods safe.
TM: Does the
presence of the curfew contribute to the misapprehension
that Communipaw and the surrounding areas are lawless?
MH: I don’t know. I do know that it suggests to me that the
current police force does not know how to patrol this neighborhood.
My God, Crown Fried Chicken is a block and a half from the police
station! When your station house cannot control a two-block
perimeter, you’ve really got a problem.
I think the police department has become disconnected from
the neighborhoods it is supposed to serve. Our community policing
program has fallen into the ground again. That needs to be a
priority.
TM: So is it fair to say that Mayor Holloway would attempt
to lift the curfew?
MH: Yes, we’ll want to roll this back, get the police force
out on the street more, revive our community policing programs,
and curtail criminal activity through our active presence rather
than by our absence.
TM: Let’s switch gears and talk a little about the PAD.
Do you believe in the ordinance and in the
District?
MH: I support the arts district in theory, but I am worried
about how much of an arts district the PAD is realistically
going to be. The new properties that are opening in the warehouse
district seem prohibitively expensive. I think a lot of artists
are inevitably going to be priced out, and it is going to be
tough for the area to achieve critical mass necessary for it
to become a true arts neighborhood.
I know that the arts community Downtown enjoys its proximity
to Manhattan. But, realistically, artists might have to look
at moving to a different area of town, and trying to beachhead
elsewhere.
TM: Lafayette, perhaps? I know several of the more prominent
figures in the 111 Tenants Association have already moved there.
MH: Oh, no, that’s the wrong place to beachhead. Artists will
be forced out of there in a New York minute. There are already
47 development projects slated for Lafayette. Homes there
are starting at four to six hundred thousand dollars.
During the Schundler Administration, I felt that Lafayette
would have been a prime place for an Arts district. I saw the
warehouses and wide roads, and I thought it could have been
Jersey City’s SOHO. But in 2005, we have to classify that as
a missed opportunity. It is too late for Lafayette – the huge
projects are already on the board.
TM: I appreciate your candor. Okay, then, if not Lafayette,
where do we look?
MH: Honestly, I’m not quite sure where the next place is going
to be. There has been such a major land grab over the past ten
years. We really have to take a tour of the city and find out
what is left.
Our dilemma is that visual artists need physical space, but
in a city where the real estate market is booming, how much
square footage can artists realistically afford? Spaces are
either too expensive, or too small to be attractive to artists.
The
Monticello Avenue Main Street plan is commendable, but they
still have a way to go there. It’s unclear whether
artists will be able to work in the spaces they have to
offer.
We have to determine what artists’ feelings are about trying
to move their energy and synergy to a different place. I recognize
that some people just love being Downtown and don’t want to
explore other neighborhoods. But the only place left Downtown
is the Summergrade property, and I’m not sure whether that is
even usable. Besides that, I think we have to look elsewhere.
TM: How about the Powerhouse itself? What about the idea
of turning that building into a theatre that could be the focal
point for the District?
MH: Again, I am unsure. In Journal Square, we’ve got the Loew’s
and Stanley Theatres – both are incredible buildings, and neither
has been used to anywhere near its full entertainment capacity.
If you look at the plan of the city, there is no reason why
Journal Square could not be Times Square West. It’s the geographical
center of Jersey City, and it’s the local transit hub. Reviving
that neighborhood and that commercial center will be a priority
of my administration. Journal Square deserves an economic jump-start.
Why ignore those two amazing theatres that we do have to create
another theatre that isn’t even built yet? We have to explore
everything that
you can do with the Loew’s and the Stanley before we turn
our attention to creating a new structure where one does not
already exist.
TM: All of this – transformation, hiring new planners, reviving
community policing – is going to cost money. How are you going
to finance your agenda?
MH: First of all, we need a revival of imagination and creativity
in our public financing. For instance, Port Authority needs
to be a main player in our economic revival, because we don’t
get any money for the Holland Tunnel – and that isn’t fair.
Fort Lee gets money, Newark gets money; we’re here dealing with
the pollution and traffic for the tunnel, and we ought to be
subsidized for that the way other cities are. No mayor has ever
done a full court press to get those concessions out of the
Port Authority. I intend to be that mayor.
Every city needs a business plan, and incredibly, we do not
have one. We need a plan for one year, three years, five years
down the road. We have to asses our needs and the skills we
have, because there is talent and energy here, but nobody can
get heard. Say what you want about Sharpe
James, but wherever he’s done anything, he has brought top-flight
people into Newark City Hall to take care of those projects.
When he steps away from City Hall, he will leave knowing he
has built a civic structure that is solid, knowledgeable, and
can weather storms. We’re not doing anything like that in Jersey
City.
TM: Are you worried that the school system will soon revert
to municipal control, and that the costs will swamp any attempt
at reform?
MH: The state is trying to find a way to give the schools back.
And, yes, if the state leaves, the extra money leaves with them.
The budget increase would be tremendous. And the school system
is still not up to the standard it ought to be up to. So, yes,
it has to be a concern.
TM: Are you supporting incumbent Viola Richardson for Ward
F Councilperson?
MH: No, I am not. I am only standing with one council candidate,
and my running-mate in Ward F is Crystal Jones. She’s 32 years
old, and a community leader. One of the reasons I am trying
to become Mayor is because I would like to give the next generation
an opportunity to get involved in the political process.
TM: How about the At-Large races? Have you made any endorsements?
MH: I haven’t made any official decisions yet.
TM: Okay, I’ll toss you a name, and you give me a reaction.
Omar Barbour?
MH: He’s a local. He is the leader of the MLK
Community Development Corporation, a neighborhood activist
and development association.
TM: Could you vote for him?
MH: Yeah, I suppose I could.
TM: Willie Flood?
MH: [Pauses.] Let’s just say that Willie Flood is a very nice
woman, and leave it at that.
TM: I found her run for Mayor last November very strange.
She had that office on Jersey Avenue, but it was never open.
It was almost a
ghost candidacy.
MH: Willie Flood is a good person, but her run was barely serious.
It was used by the county establishment to divide the African-American
vote. If Flood had not been on the ballot, Harvey Smith would
have been elected Mayor.
TM: Speaking of people who come down hard on Harvey Smith,
why do you think that the Urban Times News has thrown in so
decisively with Mayor Healy?
MH: Oh, they cut a deal. My understanding is that they like
development contracts over there, and Mayor Healy is supposed
to them the development contracts that they want. They’ve got
no integrity, and will make deals with whoever they can.
TM: If you’re booted from the ballot, would you really encourage
your supporters to vote for Alfred Marc Pine? He seems to have
no political instincts whatsoever.
MH: Sometimes that’s even better, though. Look at Bret Schundler.
He was not considered a typical politician. You have to sit
down and talk to Pine to really get a sense of him. Once you
engage him, you will be surprised at how intelligent he is,
and how much he cares. He’s just an ordinary, educated person
who said enough is enough, I’m going to do what I can to straighten
out this mess.
We shouldn’t be stereotyping people because thy don’t have
the proper image. We’ve had the sharp-dressing politicians in
office for fifty years, and look where has it gotten us. Why
not try somebody new? Somebody unconventional? Somebody who
doesn’t have the suit on, and who hasn’t become accustomed to
making excuses for poor performance.
I encourage you to have an interview with him.
TM: You and Andrew Hubsch have
shamed me into it. When I get a chance, I’ll ring him up. Any
closing statements?
MH: I often feel like we need to do our own internal homecoming
– we need to have introduce people to the parts of Jersey City
that they do not see. Right now in Jersey City, the waterfront
is one world, and everything else is another world. But there
is far too much talent in this town not to reach out and transcend
those barriers.
For all my life, Jersey City has been territorial, fragmented,
and guarded. It breaks my heart to hear kids say “the Downtown
cannot go uptown” – not just because it seems to speak of limited
opportunities, but because that is something that their grandparents
used to say. These borders must fall.